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Ashlyn Oliveri's avatar

Classical is classic

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Skender Gjergji's avatar

A gem 💎 from comrade Wheeler

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Tom Hartung's avatar

The removal of modulation (i.e. rest, etc.) seems to me closely tied to the understanding that Time does not exist. It seems to me that the false reification of modulation is a direct consequence of the false conceptual reification of “Past” and “Future” as existents, both of which are akin to shadows-attributional silhouettes relative only to that which is psychophysically casting a shadow of ignorance. Forgive me if I’m overcomplicating this. Ultimately my question is if Presence is Transcendence or is the concept of Presence itself is a psychophysical folly of consciousness?

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Dale's avatar

Knowledge, wisdom. The removal of agnosis (gnosis), is liberation.

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john cronen's avatar

i died june 4th 1994 in meditation one week after dental surgery , which was a week of blood throwing up not eating instead fasting , at end of week i sat down and died in Om . I say i died in Om as that is what i was repeating a phi golden mean implosion sound . as i passed over i watched my entire body slowly shut down , a turn in dna a hum in ventricles , then layers of sound , then a tunnel in spine , then a roaring orgasmic light in pineal , then conducted into an endless blue black luminous aware silent place , where i said now what within my awareness torus , and began to listen for sounds i heard open as i previously died , i wanted to go back to the light .. i instead blundered back to my body , the sounds were my chakras , i listened / channeled my way back from death : phowa , quite by accident . I know that place is called alot of things , and i know alot of things are lumped on and assumed about such people who die with lights on and memory intact .. call it what you will , call me what you will . i am still there .. i never left , i wont return , its beyond words BUT i do have words : Its a silent endless ocean of awareness seemingly alone ... aware ... aware .. in silence ... alone . /\ getting back im still alone .

i wouldnt call it enlightenment despite siddhi since for decades . i died at 1am , back at 2 am .

i agree with all Ken says , even though .. really : no one is nice to me , thats cool : im free .

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Kaiser Basileus's avatar

Transcendence refers to that which is beyond our current access or understanding and there's only two ways to push what we can explore physically and logically into a larger understanding, which is to increase the resolution of our instruments or our logic. There is no way to go beyond. Transcendence in that sense is woo. We can only increase what is accessible from where we are.

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Kaiser Basileus's avatar

You're apparently conflating epistemological illumination with physical illumination while those two ideas are exponentially distinctive realms. Illumination as understanding is literally unrelated in any meaningful sense at any level to vibration of any kind.

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Wokefinder General's avatar

Ken - every night to go to sleep I practice what I think may be Yogic breathing. I count from 50 to zero, on the even numbers I breathe out and odd numbers breathe in. When i reach 20 I count every outbreath on a whole number. I am reducing my brain activity to a state of rest. This chimes in with your frequent discussions of bringing things to a state of rest.

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Auralea's avatar

This, quite honestly, is one of the greatest speeches ever put into words by man. It carries an essence that, if humanity could truly perceive, would take us far beyond where we stand today. Each word here is a gift for the seeker of truth—a path to the Absolute, the way to true Gnosis.

To end modulation, there must be an equal and opposite force—an inversion, a cancellation. But this is not merely a concept; it requires true effort, an active will. The modulation itself is karma—of all attributes. It is the force that perpetuates movement, embodiment, and experience. To cancel it is not simply to understand but to act, to strive. Those who put forth this effort, who genuinely seek truth through will and discipline, will indeed find it—not as an abstract idea, but as a lived reality.

Only when one actualizes this can they see that the unmoving Self is brighter than a million suns, for it is the source of all suns. Blessed are we to have these words, and blessed are those in the future who hear and comprehend them—they will be the ones to lead us out of the dark ages.

The only thought I wish to add is about Original Sin. What if it was not "sin" but "sine"—as in a sine wave, a modulation? To "sine" would be the very condition of embodiment itself. This then being morphed into the idea of original sin snd the fall ? Maybe ….

Thank you, Ken, for this wisdom, which has cost you many years of incredible focused mentation, research, effort, and hardship to again bring to light something of this magnitude the ancients knew. I hope the future revives this most simple truth, lives it fully without dogma, and that we all experience the "dead man walking." How beautiful it truly is to see the source of self and its attribution of love.

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Corbett's avatar

In 10 minutes I realized it would take 2 weeks to actually understand what your truly trying to convey.

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Ken wheeler's avatar

its simple really

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